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Self Steering

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Anyone have any ideas on rigging self steering on a Com-Pac 16? Looking for a non-electric solution.

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do an Internet search for 'sheet to tiller steering'.

i have good success using a TillerClutch when sailing -

http://smallcraftadvisor.com/store/prod ... ductid=299


last week i sailed, to weather, for close to an hour across Port Townsend Bay in about 8-knots with a TillerClutch. have a video showing me on the bow for over 15 minutes with boat sailing herself. don't know if the Compac will do this. trick is to get the boat well trimmed.
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Please show us this video! :)
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here is an older video i made back from the Sage 17 shakedown cruise in June 2011 -




i am now much better at sailing the Sage 17 so i can balance the boat quickly, and under a specific angle of sail, and set the TillerClutch to 'take control'.

i'll be putting together a video over the next couple of weeks about last week's Puget Sound trip. i'll share when it is complete.
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Thanks Dave! :) Great video!

I try that from time to time and it works on my boat but the wind is shifting all the times where I sail! :( I have to do whatever business I have to do quickly in the cabin! ;)

Looking forward to your next video. :)
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Michel wrote:I try that from time to time and it works on my boat but the wind is shifting all the times where I sail!
a sudden shift the boat can't 'keep up with'. a gradual change is not a problem ... the boat will follow a 'lift' or if 'headed'.

on Lake Dillon, here in Colorado, the wind is constantly shifting, sudden 90 degree changes and i've even done 360's. mountain sailing is a challenge!

i found sailing in Puget Sound last week 'easy' as the wind doesn't shift much.
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I know what you mean! Terrain effects must be part of our karmas! ;) There are only a few place in my sailing region that I can trust for a bit of steady wind. But as someone said: "What doesn't kill you makes you stronger" ;)
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video of my overnight cruise this past July in Puget Sound -




the part showing the boat self steering begins 12 minutes into the video.
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That was a great video Dave! 8-)

Here is my small contribution to self steering (About 1:45 in the video) ;)

http://youtu.be/esIC-bMX8mg
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It is all about balance. Proper sail set is key. I did pick up a 'tiller clutch' beats trying to tie a tiller with a couple of half hitches while trying to dash to the bow to set a sail on my Montgomery 15. I get the work done then try to reach the tiller before I broached or something worse. Always frantically tring to untie the half hitches. The tiler clutch is such an elegant solution. In a pinch I can just push the tiller and override the breaking mechinisim.
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