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[Sailhavasu]

Lusty.... Couldn't agree with you more ("Any boat that I could afford at this point would come with a laundry list of repairs, some apparent, some not.") I can relate!

We nearly sold our 23 recently. I've spent years getting her to be the boat I want her to be. Of course, there is always more to do, more on the list, more things to fix, modify, or maintain. But the thought of starting over ....ugh.... I don't want to think of that! What is it they say? Something like "the perfect boat is the boat you sail"? LOL I may someday regret not taking the offer I got on her....but for now..I am happy she is still ours. She is the boat that fits our sailing style, and budget. We have worked to pay for her. Now that she is paid for ....it's simply time to enjoy her and repay her with tender loving care for years to come. After all, I think that is a major part of the enjoyment and satisfaction she provides me with.



Sean

[lustyslogger]

Lusty.... Couldn't agree with you more ("Any boat that I could afford at this point would come with a laundry list of repairs, some apparent, some not.") I can relate!

We nearly sold our 23 recently. I've spent years getting her to be the boat I want her to be. Of course, there is always more to do, more on the list, more things to fix, modify, or maintain. But the thought of starting over ....ugh.... I don't want to think of that! What is it they say? Something like "the perfect boat is the boat you sail"? LOL I may someday regret not taking the offer I got on her....but for now..I am happy she is still ours. She is the boat that fits our sailing style, and budget. We have worked to pay for her. Now that she is paid for ....it's simply time to enjoy her and repay her with tender loving care for years to come. After all, I think that is a major part of the enjoyment and satisfaction she provides me with.



Sean

I learned my lesson on a 1958 BSA Super Rocket motorcycle I restored several years ago. I purchased the basic parts for a song. However, to get it back on the road and reliable enough to ride it 50 miles cost me as much as a new Catalina Capri and I never did get it 100%.

The Lusty Slogger is a Sunbird 16 daysailor that I found on Craigslist for $700.00. Its a 79 model. I have had to put at least that much more into it to plug all the leaks around the centerboard and the bow where the previous owner had run into something. Then replacing all the lines cost a hundred more and on and on. So, the thought of buying that Hinterhoeller 25 at a mere $2200.00 will be I know just the beginning of the expense. Not to mention that boat would stay in the water and only be hauled when I win the lottery. The Slogger goes home with me for repairs and upkeep.

[lustyslogger]

I see that you are into small fixed keel mini-cruisers. These are all good and trouble free boats. What do you think about the keel-centerboard type, like the Montgomery 15 ?...

I really don't know much about them. I do know a guy who has a Montgomery 15 FD (flat deck, a rare boat) but I have never sailed on it. I assume all boats are basically seaworthy and I chose what I like by what they look like (same way I buy my cigars!!)

[Michel]

I agree! I also think that most boats are good and even better if we have some satisfaction sailing on them in our usual sailing waters. I enjoy looking at various small boats and dreaming a little bit about owning them but... My little boat is all I need even after all these years and I could'nt care less about one making half a knot faster or having a sink in the cabin whatever.... This must be love!...

[lustyslogger]

I agree! I also think that most boats are good and even better if we have some satisfaction sailing on them in our usual sailing waters. I enjoy looking at various small boats and dreaming a little bit about owning them but... My little boat is all I need even after all these years and I could'nt care less about one making half a knot faster or having a sink in the cabin whatever.... This must be love!...

Kind of like my wife! I could trade her in for 3 20's but since I can't even sail the one I have to its maximum abilities what good would that do me??


Seriously Michel, I read the article about your boat in SCA. Its a nice little boat and one I would be proud to own. But as Sean said the best boat is the one we sail (or something like that . SCA says it best. Small boats great adventures. They could add to that Big Boats, Great Expenses. Its like a Cadillac I once owned. I called it my Y1K car. Why was everything $1000.00 to fix?

[wdscobie]

I do know a guy who has a Montgomery 15 FD (flat deck, a rare boat)

thinking your friend owns a M17 flush deck ... not aware that Jerry ever made a deck mold for a FD 15.

maybe a dozen of the FD M17s were made. 100% racing boat. no real cabin (just a place to store sails and a sack lunch). tall rig. because no cabin structure, or fancy cockpit, a very light boat at 1300#. the hull, keel the same as all M17s. has a cutout in the transom for an outboard, as all the FDs were built before Jerry changed the transom mold in '82. also a little 'well' to fit the outboard's powerhead when it is tilted up. all FDs have the cast iron centerboard and steel punching ballast.

couple of pictures of a FD below -

b17fd2.jpg

b17fd1.jpg

link to details on the boat pictured -

http://msogphotosite.com/M17Coyt.html

[lustyslogger]

Right, sorry, wrong boat on my part. Math was never my strong suit in school (but then again neither was English or Science!)

[wdscobie]

Right, sorry, wrong boat on my part. Math was never my strong suit in school (but then again neither was English or Science!)

no big deal ... i 'live and breathe' Jerry's designs so there way to much detail about his boats in my brain

[Sailhavasu]

sailed a flushdeck for years as a kid and recently did 90% of the work restoring one, then sold it. (don't ask me why? LOL) They actually do have a modified v-berth in them.

Click Link for pic

http://www.flickr.com/photos/sailhavasu ... 3158969944

If you are built of rubber, like a 16 year old is....you can sleep in them with a filler board in place. If you are built of dried out rubber and a few replacement parts (as i now am) it's not a happy place to be. LOL Fun boat to sail, though.

Here is a link to a set of photos of a 17fd's rebirth

http://www.flickr.com/photos/sailhavasu ... 158969944/

her new owner was excited to finish the job and she now lives in Michigan