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Well now I am done it. I complained about the lack of participation in the club and declining membership due to attrition so they nominated me for Commodore!!

One day I will learn to keep my mouth shut!
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I am telling you that being a dictator or at the least a commodore is the best way to run anything, especially a boat club or event.

Love, Jackie Monies- Sail Oklahoma
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Monies wrote:I am telling you that being a dictator or at the least a commodore is the best way to run anything, especially a boat club or event.

Love, Jackie Monies- Sail Oklahoma
I am taking your advise. Last night I stayed up and watched a training film on how to run a tight ship. The Charles Laughton and Clark Gable version of "Mutiny on the Bounty". Too bad I wouldn't be allowed to keel haul a few of the members!!

By the way, the real Bounty was only 91 feet long with a 21 foot beam. It carried a crew of 44 officers and men. I thought was was a lot of men on such a small boat until I realized the Destroyer I was on carried a crew of 365 officers and men and was 325 feet long with a 36 foot beam. When "manning the rails" we had 2 feet between us. The Bounty had 4 for the same evolution. I was on the Constellation in Baltimore Harbor once and the main difference I think was the height of the overhead below decks. It was hard to stand upright.

Anyway, Jackie, I will put some of the practices I learned from the training film to good use.
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much of the reading I have done about the mutiny is that Bligh was much too nice to the officers and men and didn't provide enough discipline. This led to the problems in the islands and the ultimate mutiny. Sometimes giving a slightly harder hand may be good.
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wdscobie wrote:much of the reading I have done about the mutiny is that Bligh was much too nice to the officers and men and didn't provide enough discipline. This led to the problems in the islands and the ultimate mutiny. Sometimes giving a slightly harder hand may be good.
I read one version where the real reason was jealousy over who would share the favors of a cabin boy.

Its my understanding that Bligh was an excellent seaman and did bring a small open boat over 2000 miles without a single loss of a crew member. It was also standard practice of the time to have harsh discipline because crews were mostly uneducated and as the movie implied most were out of the jails and bars and needed to be kept in line or there would have been no order.

I can tell you this about Naval Captains. If there had not been rules against such things the last commanding officer I served under would have been almost as harsh as Bligh was alleged to be. The captain at sea is the supreme commander and his word is absolute law. Mutiny, no matter how much it may be justified is never legally justified by the Admiralty.
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I agree, Bligh has been much maligned by writers and movie makers. Mike always said his sailing the dinghy/open boat/small sailboat he did when put off ship was one of the greatest accomplishments ever performed on water.

On the other hand, my reputation is well deserved as a benign despot.

When I was in sales, company Mike was with discovered my talents at managing and running territories and opening new accounts, running up sales and training salesmen. Slow to pick up on this, Mike said. Anyway, they hired me to do so with some failing salesmen since company was in deep aground anyway.

Several chose to be fired . Mike said my reputation preceded me! Anyway, I ended up running about a half dozen men/women who basically went where I told them too, covering Florida to California and all the time zones. The company got quite a few additional millions and three salesmen of the year out of this. I did not save the company, they were leaking way too badly for that.

Despots can be good. If not beloved.

Love, Jackie Monies- Sail Oklahoma
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Monies wrote:I agree, Bligh has been much maligned by writers and movie makers. Mike always said his sailing the dinghy/open boat/small sailboat he did when put off ship was one of the greatest accomplishments ever performed on water.

On the other hand, my reputation is well deserved as a benign despot.

When I was in sales, company Mike was with discovered my talents at managing and running territories and opening new accounts, running up sales and training salesmen. Slow to pick up on this, Mike said. Anyway, they hired me to do so with some failing salesmen since company was in deep aground anyway.

Several chose to be fired . Mike said my reputation preceded me! Anyway, I ended up running about a half dozen men/women who basically went where I told them too, covering Florida to California and all the time zones. The company got quite a few additional millions and three salesmen of the year out of this. I did not save the company, they were leaking way too badly for that.

Despots can be good. If not beloved.

Love, Jackie Monies- Sail Oklahoma
Despots do not need to be loved if they are good. One of my favorite military officers was Nathan Bedford Forrest (I know I know he is accused of starting the Klan but that is another story). By all accounts Forrest was a demanding and harsh leader but was respected by his men because he lost fewer men on the battlefield than any other leader. He would also be at the front of the lines standing straight up in the spurs during any charges he made. One of his ploys was to make his troops look larger than they really were and cause the Union Troops to surrender rather than fight what they thought were superior numbers.

Anyway, I haven't been elected yet so we will see what we will see.
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Mike and I went to college with one of Nathan Bedford Forrest's descendants, a frat brother of Mike's and a class mate of mine. His family went into exile in South America after the War. It is the fault of that young man that I met and married Mike Monies, so I have always held Nathan Bedford Forrest indirectly/directly responsible for my life with Mike. Since Forrest was a calvaryman, I always thought it ironic he stuck me with a frustrated naval officer.

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So, it appears I won't be Commodore after all. When I started speaking of First Wednesday Public Floggings and Keel Hauling they came to their senses and decided to offer me the Secretary Treasurer spot instead! I really didn't want to be Commodore, I just wanted a seat on the board. So, starting next week when the club doesn't have enough money for its annual trip to the Bahama's for installation of officers it will be all my fault.

I am so ready for Spring Time.

I remember last year Michel posted a video of him looking out his front door and seeing Polar Bears. I am getting to that point here.
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