New sails
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New sails
The Lusty Slogger is a 1979 AMF Sunbird 16. It has it original sails which are in fairly good shape but somewhat baggy. I am looking for a new set of sails but can't find anyone who would have replacement sails. I tried Bacon but can't get any information from them. I did find a source for AMF Apollo 16 sails. The Apollo seems to be a Sunbird without the cuddy. So, I have two questions
(1). Would the Apollo sails fit on the Sunbird?
(2), Does anyone know of any other source for my sails?
I am looking for both the main and jib if I can find them.
I have a copy of the manual but it doesn't give the dimensions of the sails.
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(1). Would the Apollo sails fit on the Sunbird?
(2), Does anyone know of any other source for my sails?
I am looking for both the main and jib if I can find them.
I have a copy of the manual but it doesn't give the dimensions of the sails.
Thanks
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Re: New sails
Contact Harry at Elliott Pattison Sailmakers. If he hasn't made a set before he will have you measure the current rig and sails.
Harry has made me 100s of sails.
www.epsails.com
Harry has made me 100s of sails.
www.epsails.com
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Re: New sails
Thankswdscobie wrote: ↑Tue Feb 16, 2021 7:36 amContact Harry at Elliott Pattison Sailmakers. If he hasn't made a set before he will have you measure the current rig and sails.
Harry has made me 100s of sails.
www.epsails.com
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Re: New sails
Sometime, a "baggy" sail is only the result of a shrinked boltrope! The same for the footrope!
My mainsail was looking bad but I took care of it by freeing both ropes at the ends near the mast and my mainsail is looking a lot better now!
Before:
DSCN4844 by Michel Boulet, sur Flickr
After:
DSCN4911 by Michel Boulet, sur Flickr
The sail is not "new" but the bag is not there anymore!
My mainsail was looking bad but I took care of it by freeing both ropes at the ends near the mast and my mainsail is looking a lot better now!
Before:
DSCN4844 by Michel Boulet, sur Flickr
After:
DSCN4911 by Michel Boulet, sur Flickr
The sail is not "new" but the bag is not there anymore!
Michel Boulet
Ex: "Mari-Bell" Sandpiper 565 (18.5367454 ft)
Now: "Papou" Tanzer 16 dinghy
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Montreal
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Re: New sails
Michel, I will try this but truthfully, my sails are 43 years old! There are no tears in the sail itself and they are quite stained at this point but I think the bags and sags are a result of age!
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Re: New sails
My sails are from 1975! It worked for me! You will lose nothing by trying!
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Re: New sails
Test the sail to see if it is even worth salvaging -lustyslogger wrote: ↑Wed Feb 17, 2021 9:18 amTrue. I'll give it a shot. That is a lot cheaper than a new set of sails I would suspect!
* Drag fingernail across stitching. If the stitching pulls away and/or breaks apart sail is shot.
* Is the sail fabric stiff? If soft, like a bed sheet or tissue paper, with no crinkling sound sail is shot
* Put fabric up to the light. See pinholes? Sail is shot
* Try grabbing sail in two hands and pulling hard. Does the fabric give? Rip? Sail is shot.
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Re: New sails
I don't think at this as salvaging! I think of this as not trowing away something that "might" be still very good for a cruising usage. It is true that a shrinked bolt rope and foot rope will make a sail appear as shot.
I am sure that many people don't know about that.
I am sure that many people don't know about that.
Michel Boulet
Ex: "Mari-Bell" Sandpiper 565 (18.5367454 ft)
Now: "Papou" Tanzer 16 dinghy
Montreal
"Let the world say what it will"
~~_/)~~
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Montreal
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Re: New sails
wdscobie wrote: ↑Thu Feb 18, 2021 7:34 amTest the sail to see if it is even worth salvaging -lustyslogger wrote: ↑Wed Feb 17, 2021 9:18 amTrue. I'll give it a shot. That is a lot cheaper than a new set of sails I would suspect!
* Drag fingernail across stitching. If the stitching pulls away and/or breaks apart sail is shot.
* Is the sail fabric stiff? If soft, like a bed sheet or tissue paper, with no crinkling sound sail is shot
* Put fabric up to the light. See pinholes? Sail is shot
* Try grabbing sail in two hands and pulling hard. Does the fabric give? Rip? Sail is shot.
Other than a lack of stiffness (but not bed sheet soft) none of those issues exist.
Maybe I don't need to change them after all. I am like Marty Lorken and am not interest in outrunning everyone else on the lake. My philosophy is if the boat is moving then I am sailing!