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No keel WWP 19?
Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2020 10:42 am
by Michel
I read in the last issue article about the WWP 19 that someone sails one without the keel! That is interesting!
I would like more infos about this!
Re: No keel WWP 19?
Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2020 5:54 am
by JacquesR
Witch issue Michel.
Re: No keel WWP 19?
Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2020 6:50 am
by wdscobie
Michael:
I believe you are speaking about the Potter 15 & 19 heavily modified by Jim Gossman (aka, Goose).
He has removed the transoms from both boats and rebuilt to use HUGE outboards. The boats have dual rudders and wheel steering.
He removed and modified the houses.
He removed the centerboard (P15) and daggerboard (P19) and then installed in-hull ballast. He then installed 'chine runners' (look up a sailboat design called 'paradox' for how these work).
Neither boat has a standard mast. I believe both are cut down from Hobie catamarans and are rotating. The rigs are also very large when compared to the stock P15/19.
The boats will go upwind but a cross or contrary current will really make them sail poorly.
Goose really wanted to have the option to motor fast. This is why he removed the keels. Because of the excessive sized motors he can get up on a plane using the Potter's flat bottom and the water being channeled between the chine runners.
His boats are actually less beachable because the chine runners are vulnerable be damaged and result in deeper draft than a standard P15/19.
Re: No keel WWP 19?
Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2020 10:25 am
by Michel
The last one Jacques! # 126
Yes wdscobie! That was the one I was refering to. So he uses chine runners! This is what came to my mind, reading the article! Great! Thanks!
Re: No keel WWP 19?
Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2020 6:06 am
by JacquesR
Have not received 126 yet.
Re: No keel WWP 19?
Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2020 12:13 pm
by Michel
You should recieve it very soon! A very good issue!
Re: No keel WWP 19?
Posted: Sat Oct 31, 2020 6:24 am
by JacquesR
Got it in the mail yesterday. Went directly to the WWP 19 review. Interesting!
Re: No keel WWP 19?
Posted: Sun Nov 01, 2020 6:55 am
by wdscobie
After some thinking and asking around ...
There is an SCA from about-ish 10 years-ish ago that covers Goose's P15 conversion to the chine runner, large motor and new mast hybrid. If you are really interested you can contact Josh to obtain a PDF of the issue.
Re: No keel WWP 19?
Posted: Sun Nov 01, 2020 8:11 am
by Michel
JacquesR wrote: ↑Sat Oct 31, 2020 6:24 am
Got it in the mail yesterday. Went directly to the WWP 19 review. Interesting!
It was!
Re: No keel WWP 19?
Posted: Sun Nov 01, 2020 8:14 am
by Michel
wdscobie wrote: ↑Sun Nov 01, 2020 6:55 am
After some thinking and asking around ...
There is an SCA from about-ish 10 years-ish ago that covers Goose's P15 conversion to the chine runner, large motor and new mast hybrid. If you are really interested you can contact Josh to obtain a PDF of the issue.
Interesting! I don't really care about the big motor business but the rest of it intrigues me! Thanks Dave!